How will they know if you don’t tell them?

      I was out of town this weekend and I had an interesting conversation this evening with someone who will hopefully soon become an NBA pro basketball player.

I know it’s a common perception that all jocks are somewhat barely literate and do not pay much attention to their education during their college years. Some are and some aren’t. I was fortunate enough to carry on a conversation with someone I met a gathering given by one of his friends. While the host was making the rounds to greet his guests. My friend who invited me told him I was an author.


Several people whom I had spoken with earlier exclaimed I didn’t reveal that information about myself. They were right. I didn’t.


I had been off line for several years for personal reasons and when I returned I noticed a lot of things were different. I had been taking advice from online sources and try not to mention this newsbeat in every conversation I conduct. I have read so many posts where people lamented they were sick of authors talking about their books.


The host asked me about them, prodding me to talk about them. I was reluctant to speak about them for I had read so many comments of people staying authors overdo it when marketing themselves or trying to become published. But I told him about them. He asked that I write the titles down and I did.


My friend told him I hadn’t been online in a while and had been reading the advice of naysayers who didn’t know what they were talking about.

I was surprised he had been online too and read those snarky comments. He, then asked me how was anyone to know about them if I don’t tell anyone?

I told him this party was celebrate him and his achievement not a forum for me to talk about my books.


It was he who mentioned the comments saying they are all over the net and do not pay them any mind. He used the allegory of the fact he plays basketball for a living and that’s what he does and if anyone didn’t want to hear about basketball then don’t talk to him.

He said that those who matters don’t mind that you talk about your work and those do mind that you talk about it don’t matters. I have heard that before but didn’t tell him I had.


I told him it doesn’t work that way in the literary world. Everyone’s opinion must matter to you for if you offend someone they may give you a bad rating which can destroy the sales and rating of your work.


One man listening to our conversations wholly disagreed with me saying rating only influence the casual or seasonal readers. I had never heard the term ‘fad readers’ which he said are people who only read what’s considered the chic thing to read whether it actually good or not.  But he made it clear it has no bearing on serious readers who often look for work everyone isn’t raving over. He laughed, saying a man made it all the way to the White House not caring what anyone thought of what he had to say nor how he said it.


I was surprised at how many people agreed with him that serious readers really don’t care about ratings. (I personally do not care about it if I’m looking for something to read.)  Several said they don’t pay ratings online much attention if they want to buy a book. They read the excerpt on line or the back of the book in person and if it interests them then they buy it. They don’t care if the work has ratings or not.


I told him that was different. If he gets accepted into the NBA he will a much larger salary than I probably will make in my lifetime.


I soon learned he was quite a confrontational young man. I mean in an effective way. Not a belligerent way. He argued I could tell people I am a writer when asked what do I do? That anyone who doesn’t want to hear about it then don’t ask me what do I do.


One woman asked what was the advice she have seen where people recommend authors not to defend their work? She thought it was obscure.  Stating that in every occupation she’s aware of people are encouraged to defend their work.

I couldn’t answer that question for I don’t understand it either. I don’t feel you have to be rude about explaining what you meant neither. I find people like for the author to explain what he or she meant.  I have read lots of books if the author was still alive I would love to ask them what did they mean for I can only speculate what they may have meant


I politely smiled and thanked him and his guests for the advice and believe I made a few new fans.  But truthfully, online rating counts for a lot. But it was nice to hear things from readers point of view.




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About unholypursuit

A. White, an award winning former librarian, who is also a long time member of Romantic Time and Publisher's Weekly. A. White has been writing for over fifteen years. She took classes in creative writing in college, specializing in ancient myths and legends. and later at a local community center while living in Chicago. In college she won the national contest to verbally list every country in the world, it's capital and ingenious language. Her works are mainly horror, fantasy, extreme, and sci-fi as well as, as some may says, "the truly strange predicament and puzzling." Books that I've written are "Clash with the Immortals, and eleven others which are part of the "Unholy Pursuit saga,". She has been working on the Chronicles since 2007. She wished to complete them all before introducing them to public so the readers wouldn't have to for the continuation to be written. The ideas of the book come from classic literature such as whose work greatly influence the world world such as Homer, Sophocles, Herodotus, Euripides, Socrates, Hippocrates, Aristophanes, Plato, Aristotle and many more. The "Book of Enoch" influenced the usage of Azazael as a main character and love interest. I created the primary main character from the Chronicle of Saints. I wanted to show them as real flesh and blood with thoughts, desires and yearning as any human. Not as they are so often depicted. So I created one of my own to show her as a real human that everyone can relate to.
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7 Responses to How will they know if you don’t tell them?

  1. Alisha White says:

    He’s right. How else will anyone know about your books if you don’t tell them. Stop listening to those naysayers and tell everyone you meet what you do and recommend your work to them. Sales people do it all the time when give you their business card. Quite contrary to popular belief authors don’t live on air and the public needs them as equally as they need the public. Every movie you watch starts in the mind of a writer. Supposed they all one day spontaneously say. “Screw t, they aren’t paying me enough for the headache”, and stop freaking writing and where would entertainment come from? Where would news come from?

    The man had a vital point when he said if you don’t want to hear about basketball then don’t talk to him. For example you can’t talk a ball player about what a construction worker do for a living. If you talk to someone you are going to hear about what they do. It’s simple as that.

    Let’s face it. Most online people are only going to recommend the big publishing companies books with hundreds of paid reviews. I say paid because I work in the business world and you can’t get out information one hour and they next thirty minutes a hundreds people rush in and review it. It just doesn’t work like that. Companies wouldn’t keep paying million for commercial airtime if it did. Everyone knows those are the companies employees. So how is that an “honest review?”

    But simple fact is that most people aren’t going to recommend an author until the book have at least a hundred reviews so for many indie authors that will be the next day after never. Sorry that’s the online norm, it’s simple as that. So with the blatant discouraging of smaller publishers or indie publishers who don’t have millions to spend on advertisement their clients won’t receive the same number of recommendations if any at all.

    Alma, most indie authors do not know the people you knows so their work won’t get recommended and nor have they built an offline presence as you did before publishing. But I do suggest they seek to establish an offline fan base which will boost their books a lot more than simply online marketing.

    I notice so many so called reader’s forums have a policy against an author recommending their own book but expect them to recommend and read others’ works. That’s fine if the person likes that particular author’s work but I feel it’s time they need to spend on marketing their own book. It makes no business sense for an author not to talk about their own work while discussing someone’s else. For example: Target isn’t going to talk about K-mart or Walmart. and vice versa.

    For even if the indie author gives a raving review (which I have seen many do) for the big publisher’s books that author isn’t gong to do the same for them or even quietly recommend them to their friends. So I think a lot of this BS need to be thrown out the window for it makes no common business sense. In a perfect business world that would happen but in the real one it doesn’t.

    I have wondered what good it does the author, musician, or artist to rave over their work after their death but ignore it why they are living?

    On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 4:07 AM, The Novel: UnHoly Pursuit: Devil on my Tra


    • Thank you for the fussing out.:) I’m taking your advice in serious consideration Yes, I am aware that started online and haven’t built up an offline present. I am glad you reminded everyone that it is equally important to build an offline presence as it is an online one.

      On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:22 AM, The Novel: UnHoly Pursuit: Devil on my Tra


  2. Greg says:

    Іt’s actually a great and useful piece of info.I’m satisfied that you jսst shared this useful article with us. We all have doubts at times when we feel it may not be appropriate to talk about ourselves but an author is their own best advertisers. No one else knows the works as good as you. The present president has made it ok to brag about yourself and your accomplishments. That’s the thing I never understood about critics and reviews. Most of them couldn’t even begin to wrte a book if their life depended upon it so what gives you the expertise to write a review. I think only other authors could be allowed to write and talk about writings. In all other professions that’s how it work. Thankѕ for allowing me to share my opinion.


  3. Sports and Fitness-Paul Hogan says:

    Hello, I was at the party you mentioned in this thread. I am glad you spoke up for we wanted to give an unknown author a chance to see the light day. We’re a group of athletics starting a new reading program in our community. Your implement to our friend offered us with a very valuable idea on what to select for the reading groups. I gotta hand it to you. You’ve done a formidable job and our whole sports community will be forever thankful to you. P.S. These books are perfect for young adults. I read the first one and is reading the “Immortal Lover” now. I see nothing wrong with introducing young adult to the truth about life. This is not the 1950s. Don’t let anyone defer you and don’t change your characters personality. They are unique and that’s what makes them interesting. One of the main reason we selected your series is it gives girls a strong role model. Too many girls from inner city neighborhoods do not see themselves in any literature, network television or on the internet as being strong women who can handle themselves.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Hello Paul, thanks for dropping by. Thank you, I humbled to be chosen as one of the new authors for your community project.I think it’s a good thing you guys are doing. Encouraging children to read books.


  4. Ann Harden says:

    Don’t be shy in talking about your work. That’s the only way anyone will know about it. I’m an artist. I paint for a living and if you don’t want to talk about art, then there isn’t much we have to talk about. I’m not going to talk to you about kids or grand kids. I’m not going to talk about your spouse or pets. I don’t talk about my owns. I think it’s ridiculous for people to expect an author to talk about everything but their work. Real art is not easily produced. It take years of dedication, hour you could be doing something else.

    On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 4:07 AM, The Novel: UnHoly Pursuit: Devil on my Tra

    Liked by 1 person

    • Ann, LOL! I don’t mind talking about pets or even grandchildren although, I don’t have any grandchildren and can’t relate to being a grandparent yet. But I find it’s put people at ease around you if don’t mind talking about whatever interest them. Pet owners loves their pets. I understand that.


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